B.
It was I who had asked the question, and I could hear that Sananda would in some way like to answer it. And I did not understand, that this here channel said that he couldn’t hear anything or that Sananda wouldn’t answer. And I couldn’t bring myself to ask him about it, so I asked Sananda about it, “why is it so?”.  And then he told me that it is because that this here person isn’t conscious of extraterrestials, he doesn’t believe in it. And the master Kuthumi has also said it, that if we don’t have something in our consciousness from this life or from previous lives, then we can’t channel it, then we can’t hear it, if someone is trying to tell us about it. And that told me something about that there are different levels on which you can channel. And I shall hurry to say, that it was quite a good channel, for there is use for all of us. But it’s just different, how much we channel, how much of the energy we can get through.

T.
And our own belief, I guess, is also a main factor in what can come through? I also remember from my own channeling-course I took at your place, that there are what is called the 4 groundrules of channeling. And one of the 4 groundrules is as a matter of fact, that “You can’t receive something unknown to your consciousness”. And I guess that this man was an example of just that?

B.
Yes, as you know, I have learnt this by practising it, by seeing in practice “why can’t it be done?”, and so I have asked Sananda about this, and then he has answered me. So it is those from the spiritual wold, who were my teachers, and so they still are. I can’t go to a teacher today, or it isn’t necessary. I use my teachers in the spiritual world.

T.
But doesn’t that mean also, that when you go to a medium, to someone who channels, that you also must have in mind what a person that is, and what that person himself believes in? When I’m asking this question, it’s because it’s something, I have thought about a lot lately and studied a lot – how different things are said by different mediums – when I have compared different channelings …?

B.
Surely so, for what is being channeled will always be coloured by that person, that channel, it’s coming through. It can’t be any different since we are using our selves. When I’m channeling, my consciousness is the tool. So of course it will be coloured by what I know and who I am and have been before. That is obvious.

T.
I would like to ask you about different attitudes to channeling. For there are still not many, who know about channeling. And maybe there is also someone who thinks, it’s a bit mystical. Have you ever experiensed any negative reactions to your channeling or to your telling about channeling?

B.
Not decidedly, I have had some funny experiences at a time, when I started. As you know I started to channel Sananda myself after that experience there, where I found out that I could hear something more than the other one could. And that was also what Sananda would like to have. And I held some evenings at Stjernen, where people could come and ask Sananda some questions, and then he would answer. I had become interested in trying that, for that was what the other one was doing, and that was going rather well. And then quite often people were asking Sananda about something or other , eg. : “Should I take this job or the other job?” And then I clearly heard Sananda say: “Try to ask this person, what he thinks himself”. And so I said that: “What do you feel yourself?” . And that made them laugh a lot. And then there was such a rumour going round, that you shouldn’t ask Sananda, for he will only send it back to yourself, what you would like yourself. And I found out that that is the way it is with the master-energies. They want ourselves to take responsibility, to search for what we ourselves feel is right for us, for they are certainly not going to decide for us.
Sananda could of course give some guidance as to where our ressources were, and what could be good for one, but deep down and in the last instance it’s our own choice. And I couldn’t, could I, do other than say what I had heard whispered. And I also experiensed, that there were many of them who used some old expressions like “My dear child”. And it was a little hard for me at first, for this Birgit would probably not use that expression. But I had to say it the way they said it for otherwise it wouldn’t be pure channeling, then I would have changed it, edited it. And this I found out quite quickly, that you shouldn’t start to do that, for then you water down the energy and the message. And you just have to get used to that, that there are other phrases, other ways to say things, and that of course makes it more real, you shouldn’t start editing it.

T.
So Sananda was one of those you at a time found out you could channel , him and other masters. It must have been a great experience, when you found out, you could channel Sananda. You also told me that at first it was the general opinion that not many would ever be channeling Jesus-Sananda in Denmark. But you found out along the way, together with somebody else, that you were both able to …?

B.
Yes, the channel I had gone to hear and who had been at Stjernen had told me so, so I was seriously nervous when I then found out, that I and one of my former students had started to channel Sananda. I felt weird about it, as a matter of fact I was afraid that it wasn’t real. So I called him to tell what had happened, and then it became very quiet at his end. And I thought: “What if he says it isn’t real”.
But he didn’t do that, he said that then we must have a meeting, and then all the three of us met. And he confirmed that I and my student were right. And that of course was wonderful.

T.
We talked earlier about different attitudes to channeling. You told at the course I attended, that there are some people who have some resistance against channeling, and that the greatest resistance is really found in spiritual circles. We had a discussion back then about (among other things) the fact that somebody said, that you ought to channel only once in a while – maybe every six months, for the masters don’t have time!!  (Laughter)  What is your comment on such a statement?

B.
Yes, I have to laugh, I can only laugh at it, for it is a mighty illusion, it’s pure nonsense. The masters and God have time for us all, all the time and at any point in time. There are some illusions going round, which I personally would like to exorcise. This is hereby done.

T.
Yes, it happens to be on your suggestion that we should call this broadcast “Everyone is a Channel” and that was also the message, I assume, that you would like to send?

B
Exactly, everybody has a contact to God, everybody has a soul, so it’s a question of consciousness, if you can use it or not. And that is also the subject I am teaching, in order to lead others onto the right path. We ought to become our own master, all of us, and listen to our soul, listen to our heart.     
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