CHANNELING, Part 2

Interwiew with Birgit Elisabeth Friis Emdal (B) about channeling. From the program “Danish Spirituality” on the local radio “Gladsaxe”, sent on 22.04 2003 (Copenhagen,  100,9 MHz, cable radio channel  95,2). Interwiewer: Thomas Halskov (T).



T.
I shall start out by saying – if any of the listeners should be in doubt – that channeling  is when a person functions as a medium for a non-physical personality. That is one way to put it, anyhow. But last time you told me, that channeling is also about love?

B.
Yes, channeling is love, you can say it as briefly as that. But it is enjoyment too, of course.

T.
Yes, and it is related to a question I would like to take up from the last time, for then we talked about you having a college degree, and that you used to teach biology and communication in highschool. But at a time, you decided you would rather work with alternative learnings. What made you decide that?

B.
In  a way that has something to do with enjoyment too.
For at any given opportunity I would be telling about alternative learnings in the staff-room, and I asked the students, if they would like to hear about something about it, or I could demonstrate some things. And they would like to. And then I had to ask myself, what I was doing there? For I felt something was missing. And then I got some help from the outside. It was my grandmother  who lay dying at Herlev Hospital and she had gangrene in one foot. And I was out there visiting her, and there on her last day, she took my hand and asked me could I please help her. If  I maybe could administer some treatment to her feet? And I thought: “What does the lady mean?” But then I had heard something about zone-therapy and thought, that it just might be that I could help her with that. Well I didn’t make it then, she died shortly after. But it was really her, who got me started on alternative work, because then I took an education in zone-therapy. That is where I began, at the more physical end of the scale. And every time I practised zone-therapy, I felt incredible enjoyment. I was looking forward to seeing peolple, I was happy while they were there, and I was wery happy when thy left, for I could tell that THEY felt happy. And it was then I found out that this, this was what I had better do all the time instead of just once in a while, in the evening og during intervals. So that is where it started.

T.
Hearing you say that, it comes to my mind that healing is really also a sort of channeling. And you are also practising Christ-healing today as far as I know?

B.
Yes.

T.
My  next question has to do with these TV-programs, who have dealt in the alternative world and spiritual things as most people have probably seen. It is said, that at the moment there is a greater interest in spiritual matters than ever before. And one of the ways this is expressed is by these TV-programs. There were among others one called “The Power of the Spirits”. What is your opinion of these TV-programs?

B.
I think that a lot of them were quite good. They were good in the way, that they have created an interest in the spiritual world, the fact that this words exists. And they have made people start thinking: “Is there really something more between the heaven and earth?”, and “How can this be possible?”. Personally I have been asked many questions about these programs, because I work within the same field. They quite clearly have a mission as to remind people, that there really is more between heaven and earth, than we maybe are able to see and sense ourselves.


T.
But what we have seen for the most part in those programs, that is clairvoyance – and ghosthunting, I was about to say. And that is not the same thing as channeling. What is the difference between clairvoyance and channeling?

B.
That is a good question, many people have asked me that. It’s a difference in energy. Channeling, that is heart-energy. When practising clairvoyance, you are on the astral level. It may be a clear feeling you have. It may also be a voice, clear-hearing. It may also be clear-vision, as the world actually means – beeing able to see deceased people or animals or beeing able to see an aura around a person. And there you are using your own personal energy a lot, while in channeling, there you are really exploiting a higher, divine energy, the heart-energy. And there you begin with your own soul, one’s own heart-energy, one’s own master. For if you don’t have contact with that, then you can’t channel others either – for instance the Ascented Masters, with whom I do some work.

T.
So you might say, that channeling is a higher energy. And I also remember you saying at one of the courses I attended, that if you are able to channel, you can usually do clairvoyance too, but not always the orther way around?

B.
No, and that’s because, that when looking at how far you have come in your development – then we can always go down in energy, we can always descend to a lower level of energy, a lower level of vibration than where you really belong. And that is why the masters can appear through us here on Earth, someone like Jesus-Sananda, Kuthumi, the Count or whoever it may be. But please understand, that we can’t go to a higher energy-level than we have got to ourselves development-wise, or consciousness-wise you might say, how conscious one is about oneself  and about the universe and how many inaugurations you have taken and so on. But we can always go down in energy.

T.
Looking at this kind of TV-program, dealing a lot with ghosts – and historically speaking there has also earlier been a great interest in spiritualism, which I have read a bit about myself                
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