T.
That again has something to do with love. The ability to receive love, I think, has much to do with the ability to channel.
Do you agree?
B.
Oh, yes. And I have also seen many of my pupils who are starting to “play the game” as I phrase it, to get a contact to a very loving energy, they break down and start to cry, for they have never been used to receiving so much love, it’s like too big for them. And it’s evident, that you can’t establish yourself as a professional therapist or lecturer if you are constantly breaking down. So it’s a learning process, learning by doing. You can’t get there by reading or listening. You can only get better by doing it. And that is why I coach these groups, where people can exercise and train together.

T.
And that also has a relation to this lotusflower, we bear in our heart. It’s not something I know much about, but it has something to do with the fact, that the more the heart-chakra opens up, the better we shall become at channeling, and that has to do with these leaves opening up …?

B.
Yes, but that is true too. Those leaves, heartleaves, which are also described in the litterature here and there, have to do with our consciousness. There are twelve heartleaves, and for every leaf that opens, the more conscious you have become of yourself and of the universe and of how things are interconnected. So it’s a development, it’s a process that all people will be going through, whether they are attending a class, a spiritual education or not, then we’re all going  through,  we’re all going that way. So I usually say, that all those who come to my classes, that’s all the impatient ones, who would like things to go a little faster. And you can do that, but of course it won’t happen before God is willing. I can’t guarantee anything and say that then you will be a perfect channeler, I can’t do that, for it’s not certain, that that’s Gods meaning. Everyone can learn the techniques and can train and work with themselves about it. And as we say: Practice makes master. And if you really let your heart into it and really want to, then why shouldn’t God be willing to use one in this capacity? He would like to use as many as possible, you know.

T.
How many years is it you’ve been teaching channeling?

B.
I have thought about that, it must be about 10 years.

T.
Have you through the years noticed a change in attitude to channeling or a change in attitude towards the masters?

B.
Yes, a lot, there’s a greater opening up now as compared to ten years ago. It’s coming on pretty strongly in general. And I’ve also noticed, that when I started out back then, not many let on they were channeling, but there are many today. When you look in the different magazines or go to the venues you see more and more who has come forward as channels. And that’s nice, of course, that’s the intention.

T.
One thing, we also talked about is, that it might happen, when you are on one of these channeling-courses, that the masters actually come over and bow to you, and there were some in the beginning, you said, who were not so comfortable with that, for that doesn’t conform with the kind of worshipping, with the picture, we normally have of Christ or of other masters?

B.
That’s right. There are many who put Jesus, Sananda as he is also called, up on a pedestal. And he really doesn’t want that, he wants to walk beside us and be down on Earth next to us. And he actually showed us that back then, 2000 years ago, where it was he who washed the feet of the apostles. That was an act of humility. It was maybe more appropriate, some would say, that the others should be washing his. Someone did that too, Maria Magdalene, with her tears, which fell on his feet. – But he did, and he did that exactly in order to show, that we must be good to each other, and we shall not idolize ourselves. We must stay humble of heart. That is also one of Kuthumi’s groundrules, we must remember there is something greater than ourselves.
T.
Yes, for the masters have no wish of their own to be placed up there, as far as I understand?

B.
No, not at all, on the contrary. They want us to be best of friends with them and walk beside them. We must help eachother, and we must also help eachother on Earth.

T.
Have you also experienced a change in how the courses are running, that for instance things happen faster, that people obtain an opening sooner than before? Has something changed?

B.
Yes, I think so. When I look at my own career, and as I said before: “Equal attracts equal”, then of course I too attract people, who have developed their selves further, to a greater degree than when I started out. For things must come together, the teacher ought to be at least a horses head up front. But apart from that, the energies have also become stronger on Earth. It’s now easier to take contact to both the masters and to our Father Himself.

T.
Do you think that we, here at the end, should try to do some channeling – if someone would like to say something?

B.
I’ll just try to put up my aerial, and see if someone would like to say something to all the listeners. And I pray to know who it is, of course, if there should happen to be one.  (Yes, there is. She is saying:)

“I am Maria, daughter of the Light.
To all of you listening: Remember the silence, dear children. It is in the silence, that most of all things are happening. When you are silent inside, you feel who you are. Listening. Listening to your heart. That is where you shall find all the
answers to what you must do, what you are missing, and who you are. I am with you. I am Maria, daughter of the Light.
Blessed be you all. I thank you for your attention.”