| for I felt that was not what it was. I felt very alone, alone in the world, for they didn’t give me any confirmation in what I had seen. I felt very unwell. And as I was going to bed the following night, then I saw them again. And then I became very, very frightened. I decided to get out of bed, for there was a window, all right, and there was also a little light outside, so I thought: “I wonder if they are right”. Then I went over and drew the curtains shut, so I could say for certain that it wasn’t the light out there, and went back to bed again. But then I saw them only more clearly, for then it had become even darker in there. And then I got really scared, I started to sweat all over. And then I told it of course the following day: “I did this, and I could still see them”. And once again I was told: “ Don’t worry about it, there is nothing to it, it doesn’t matter, it’s just the light outside”. And that meant, that for the rest of the time we spent there, I prayed to God asking to fall asleep quickly, before they turned off the light – so that I couldn’t see the angles. And It wasn’t because I was afraid of the angles, but I was afraid of being in that situation, where I could see something others said was not there. I felt unwell. And therefore it’s much on my mind to say to all those listening to this program, that if you have little children or older children, who can see something you can’t, but which they by the way are not afraid of, then tell them that it’s okay, for some people can do that, otherwise they will be very frightened. T. As I said earlier, you are working professionally and fulltime with channeling. But it was something quite different you did in the beginning. I mean you have a college education and in the beginning you were a highschool teacher – teaching biology and communication. But after a time you realised, that it was quite different things, you wanted to teach. And you were educated in different alternative learnings. You have practised zonetherapy. As for teaching channeling, you didn’t have any tutor yourself, you are a self-taught person so to say. But with regard to guidance there is one certain person, who I know is your guide. And there is a special story about how you found out, that he was your guide – now of course I’m thinking of Johannes. You have said something about you always knew, that your guide was called Johannes, but didn’t you know which Johannes it was…? B. No, I didn’t know that, and also I haven’t always known that it was someone called Johannes. It came to me at some point, that I had this spiritual guide, and that his name was Johannes. And I had also been allowed to see him as a monk, and I had a clear feeling that I had lived with him once upon a time, and amongst others it was he who helped me. And eventually I met a man who is channeling Sananda, which is also the one we know as Jesus, and he was going to be in my center, Stjernen, to hold a lecture and channel Sananda. And that, I thought was frantically interesting, considering that I had found out that I could channel too. And he gave me much inspiration, for I learned a lot looking at this man, how he did. And at the same time as he was standing there channeling Sananda, I could also hear Sananda’s voice in my mind. And I could sit there, seeing if we heard the same. So he has been a part of my education in that. It happens, that after people have gone home, I stay behind and talk with this here man, and then Sananda asks me directly through this here man, who my spiritual guide was, and he asks very directly:“Who is your spiritual guide, Birgit?” And I got like a quite a chock, “God, no, is he asking me that”. “Yes but his name is Johannes” I said. “But who is he?”, he then says through the channel. And then I say: “ He was a monk once upon a time, and I also think that I was living there with him”. “Yes, but who IS he? he then asks again. And then I say: “ I don’t know that, but what is the difference, for I can talk with him anyhow”. And then he says: “For you it holds a difference”. And then I asked him if he would help me find out, who it was, if it was so important to me, for I didn’t understand at that time. And then he did so. Would you like to hear that story too? T. Yes, thank you, I would very much like to hear. B. - And then he said that I should go to Thorvaldsens Museum, for there was a lot off statues of him and his twelve apostles, and there I would get the sign from him, saying who was my spiritual guide. And for that I thanked him ofcourse. And then I rushed in there that same afternoon, luckily I had no other obligations. I just said to the man, this here channel, that if it should happen that I didn’t get the sign, if then I could call him. And then his eyes went blank, he laughed and said: “When Sananda has told you that, you will get the sign of course”. And I hurried in there, and I went and stood before theese statues, and they are some fantastic statues, very big, and they are also in Vor Frue Kirke by the way, if someone wants to come and see them. And then I walked amongst these here statues and looked up at them, and every time I came to Jesus-Sananda, I thought he was quite fantastic, so I could well be infatuated with him, but that wasn’t really a sign, that. So I took another round, and nothing happened. And then I clearly remember, that then I closed my eyes, and then I sent the thought: “Dear Sananda, you told me that when I got here, you would give me a sign, so I would like to ask for the sign, and it has to be now”. And then I opened my eyes, and then I got the sign. I looked to the statue of Johannes, and there my eye caught a very big eagle, who is sitting on the plinth next to him. And that was really it, there was my sign, because before that, weeks before, eaglefeathers had been felled on my head. And – as it goes – you can’t go and buy an eaglefeather. And then, I had also had a picture painted in earlier times, by a spiritual guide, in which an eagle sat on my forehead. And that was the sign, and I had not at all seen that eagle each time I had gone round. And then I added it up: There we have an eagle, the man in the statue there is called Johannes, I have said that my spiritual guide is called Johannes, and none of the others are called Johannes. And then I became very small and very humble, for I had never imagined that. That it was one of Jesus’ twelve apostles who was my spiritual guide. So this is the way I found out. T. So you have had no definite teacher in channeling, but you have met some people who have like inspired you to develop your own channeling abilities, and your way has been a little special as to how you developed this ability to channel …? B. Yes, you can say that, it’s really those from the spiritual world, amongst others Johannes, who taught me – and took care of that this here woman came into my store and that I met this here channel, who was channeling Sananda, who really made me aware of who Johannes was. And it is in this way the spiritual beings work, that if there is something that is important to us, then they will see to it that we get to know it, and that we become aware of it. And they do that by sending us people, who are simply pushing us in the right direction. And yes, it’s reassuring to know that’s the way it is. T. And then there is a certain experience you told me about, which I think is immensely interesting – with one of these here people who inspired you, and who at a time is standing there channeling. You are at this here meeting, and can hear the same thing he can. And he is among other things asked about something concerning extraterrestials, where he says that Sananda wil not say anything about that. But that was not quite how you experiensed it, was it? next page |