| on who was this and who was that. And there is no doubt at all in my mind, that the master Kuthumi is identical with the one, who was the apostle Johannes, and Frans of Assisi too by the way – Pythagoras was him too. T. I guess they themselves are telling something about who they were too? B. Exactly, and they do so through people who are working with channeling or as a medium, that’s the same thing. T. And Jesus-Sananda, who is the leader of the ascended masters, he too has had many different incarnations on Earth? B. Yes, and not many people know that. They think, he has only been Jesus, and then he never came again. And that, as a matter of fact, is even more controversial – about his many different incarnations? But also the very fact that he has lived in a quite normal male body, and has experiensed the problems, that happened to bring with it. And luckily I saw this Easter, there has been a number of programs about things like that, and about how he also was a kind of rebel and was up against the political system, when he was here on Earth. T. Yes, so he still is today in some ways, but maybe we shouldn’t get into that right now. B. Yes, so he is today as well, but I guess that would make a whole program in itself! T. Earlier, we mentioned some of the different masters, who are in the white brotherhood, whom you channel, and whom your students also will be channeling. Is there a connection between who you are yourself, and which masters you channel? B. Yes, quite definitely so. I usually say that “Equal attracts equal”. And when we’re talking channeling, you typically channel somebody, you have some love for in advance – apropos this thing about channeling being love. I think it is rarely seen that you start to channel some energy or person that you don’t like. They will be difficult to get through to, for it’s love-messages, we’re dealing with. So in some sense you have love for the energy, you’re channelling, or an interest in it. T. Is it also the case, that there is a connection between the messages, you channel, and who you are yourself? It’s something we mentioned briefly last time we talked about one of these groundrules, saying “You can’t receive something unknown to your consciousness”. So how strong a connection is there between who you are yourself and which messages, you’re channeling? B. It’s the master Kuthumi who has laid down these groundrules, and that one is one of them. For if there is something you’re not conscious of, then they can’t get through with the messages, then you don’t have any words or pictures of it. And then they can’t get through. But it doesn’t have to be a consciousness from this life, it may also be one from a previous life. And that is why there are some channels or mediums who suddenly are sitting there speaking Chinese for instance or Sanskrit, I’ve tried that myself, uttering some words in Sanskrit, and I really don’t know Sanskrit, this time around! And that is because, that I’ve had some knowledge of it from an earlier incarnation. So these two things are very much connected, and then Kuthumi also sayes “Study, and read about things”, for the more we know, the better a channel we shall become. It’s quite simple. T. But if it so happened, would you be able to decide – if you read a book, which had been channeled, and you thought: “This sounds right, it’s like something that guy Kryon is saying”, or whatever his name was, would you be able to wilfully decide, that you would try to channel him? Yes, I could do that. For it’s a choice all the time, we have our free will, you know, the gift we got grom God, that you can like tune into a certain energy and say, that now I’ll try if I can get hold of – what d’you call him – Kryon , for instance. And everybody can do that, and that’s what’s so interesting about it, also to the present listeners, that all people can of course talk with God or with some of the masters, we’re talking about. It’s not something that only goes for you and me, and then some who are channeling or have taken a course. Everybody can do it, but it’s just not all who are conscious of it. T. You were saying before, that those you get to channel, that’s often someone, you have a love for. I guess that means also that you can have a certain idea in advance, who you’re going to channel – or is it usually a complete surprise? B. You may have an idea. Let me say it this way, that to me personally it was a surprise. I have always believed in God and Jesus and so on, ever since I was a little girl. But I was indeed surprised when I found out who it was. I had had no idea, and I hadn’t wondered about it either, for I didn’t really think it was that important, for as I boldly expressed it at the time: ”If it couldn’t be the same, whoever it was, for I could talk to him anyhow”. And I knew very well then that it was someone named Johannes, one of Jesus’ twelve apostles. But I would like so say also, that if something is important to you, and so it was in my case, then we’ll get to know too. They will take care allright, that we become conscious of it, that we get to know it through somebody else or get a strong inspiration or something, suddenly come by a book and start to read it, and then you suddenly see: “Hold it! That - is truly what I’m doing. T. Does one experience a personal development in connection with learning how to channel? B. Yes, a lot. It’s almost unavoidable, because you can’t stand there channeling love-messages, if you don’t like yourself or hate yourself. And there are quite a lot of people in Denmark, who are not especially happy about themselves – judging from those I’ve met, anyhow. And it is clear that then a personal development is starting, you kind of have to learn to accept yourself first, love yourself before you can begin to love others or stand there, relaying fine love-messages. You can’t do that if you’re feeling real lousy, then it’s lousy channeling litterally speaking. And then you have to get cleaned out by some therapy of some sort, to hear about it, read about it, be good to oneself, think kind thoughts about oneself. next page |